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Tesla responsible for slide in U.S. home solar sales

February 2, 2018, 1:41 pm
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Tesla Powerwall

February 2, 2018, 1:43 pm
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by RegGuheert (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 04:43:18 GMT+7)
Tesla Solar/Energy Storage Headed To 800 Home Depot Stores, Maybe Lowes, Too
InsideEVs wrote:During the first half of this year, some 800 Home Depot locations will receive Tesla solar displays with Tesla employees on hand to talk about what’s on offer.
InsideEVs wrote:The costs of Tesla products (average/typical):

Solar panels $10,000-$25,000
Powerwall: $7,000
Solar Roof: $52,000
Crossposting in the Tesla responsible for slide in U.S. home solar sales thread

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Let's fix the LEAF acronym for Nissan!

February 2, 2018, 3:49 pm
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by RegGuheert (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 06:49:12 GMT+7)
Losing Energy Available Fast
Losing Electricity Available Fast
Losing Expensive Amp-hours Fast
Losing Energetic Amp-hours Fast
Losing Electrical Amp-hours Fast

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Where are the 2018's?

February 2, 2018, 3:58 pm
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by DaveinOlyWA (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 06:58:11 GMT+7)
If dealer search on Nissan's site is accurate, 12 2018's were delivered yesterday (or at least assigned) so expecting to read about those deliveries today or tomorrow. These would be the first "non-classified"8-) 2018's of the year in the US.

But they are still over 1300 miles from the West Coast; The most EV centric region in the World...

Have to question the logistics here.

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Official Tesla Model 3 thread

February 2, 2018, 3:59 pm
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by edatoakrun (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 06:59:58 GMT+7)
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:
...Meanwhile, back on-topic, various significant model 3 design and build quality issues identified, prior to tear-down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIo8e12sBM
Be honest, have you ever heard of these guys?...

Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

As a matter of fact, yes I have:

edatoakrun wrote:This interview goes far beyond the Bolt, with comparisons to his earlier i-3 teardown, other BEVs, battery designs, etc.

I had it on in the background, I'm now ~ 80 minutes into this rambling 90 minute program, and plan on listening again...

Tearing Into The Chevy Bolt EV - Autoline After Hours 385

Streamed live on Jul 13, 2017
TOPIC: Chevrolet Bolt EV
SPECIAL GUEST: Sandy Munro, Munro & Associates

You may want to skip the first ~5 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl3cUMIX9Uo

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18907&p=501802&hilit=bolt+munro#p501802

Re: Official BMW i3 thread

edatoakrun wrote:The videos posted below are essentially commercials for M&A, but they give some more details on (IMO) how the i-3 design leads all other BEVs on the market today:

...In January, the consulting firm Munro & Associates produced an entertaining video showing how its engineers took apart and reverse-engineered an i3. Now the firm has released a series of short clips of the teardown process, each of which highlights an interesting feature of the innovative EV, from the clever design of its battery pack to the carbon fiber body to the economically-designed interior (you can skip the first minute of each video, a intro segment that’s almost the same for all three)...

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/more-vi ... e-details/

viewtopic.php?p=421123#p421123

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Solutions to 12 Volt Batteries and Chargers Posted Here

February 2, 2018, 4:08 pm
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by jjeff (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 07:08:26 GMT+7)
Trickle chargers come in different sizes. The real cheap small brick type can be <500ma(1/2 amp) and may not be enough to do much good to a discharged battery in the extreme cold. A better choice is one that will float and also has a maximum charge rate of at least 1000ma(1a).
Note for on the fly jumping I've gotten into the habit of carrying around a small Li jump starter(~$20-$40 on sale). I doubt it would have enough juice to jump-start an ICE(although that's what it's advertised for) but I can attest it works to jump-start a Leaf in the cold with a weak battery.
My '12(original battery) wouldn't start during the first cold snap early this winter. I put it on a regular 12v charger and it was fine about an hour later and I left. I used the car for a couple days after that with no trouble. By day 3 I parked the car outside a store and came out 30 minutes later and it wouldn't start. As I was nowhere near a 120v outlet I pulled out my little Li jump starter, hooked it up to the battery with it's battery clips and 30 seconds later turned my Leaf ON and wala! it started right up.
The next day I visited a local Batteries + and purchased an Optima Yellow Top 51R battery and it's started ever since, even in double digits below 0F. IMO if you have a Leaf with an older 12v battery I'd really think about purchasing a small jump starter and checking it's charge every couple months or so. IMO you don't really need a big jump starter, just something to hold Leaf battery to 12v until it starts and then the big traction battery will take over 12v charging for the remainder of your trip.

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Tesla Semi Truck

February 2, 2018, 4:30 pm
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by DaveinOlyWA (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 07:30:38 GMT+7)
RegGuheert wrote:InsideEVs has posted their fourth installment on the Tesla Semi Truck covering costs.

It looks like a good start, but they have Tesla's battery-pack costs coming in at $140/kWh, which puts the total cost above Tesla's asking price. I have to think that Tesla's Li-ion manufacturing costs will fall below $100/kWh by the time of the Tesla Semi's arrival in the market, if not soon afterwards. The InsideEVs article did say something similar:
InsideEVs wrote:The 500-mile version will remain in concept-form until battery costs drop to $100/kWh at the pack level.
I don't see things exactly that way. Many mass-produced items are priced based on costs dropping to a reasonable point at some time in the future. Cars and airplanes fit into that category. But I doubt Tesla can afford to subsidized very many Tesla Semis in the same way that Boeing has subsidized ALL of their 787s built and will continue to do so for years to come.


So this would be the first loss leader that brings in customers with low start up price only to make the profits on the backend with the charging network?

Its not like Tesla needs to fear 3rd party vendors and their generic charging networks :)

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What kind of range can I expect from this LEAF?

February 2, 2018, 4:36 pm
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by DaveinOlyWA (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 07:36:18 GMT+7)
probably 10 bars, not 11. Take EPA estimate minus the 80% BS and you can use 80 miles.

add 5 to the bottom for buffer so 75% of 75 miles is 56 miles. That is your "Summer" range. I would venture driving no faster than 65 mph.

For Winter? who knows? gotta know where you live for that!

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300,000th Leaf Delivered

February 2, 2018, 5:36 pm
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by DaveinOlyWA (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 08:36:37 GMT+7)
doesn't say much of anything really.

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Catastrophic Failure of Heating System

February 2, 2018, 5:46 pm
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Leaf S Heater DOA

February 2, 2018, 5:51 pm
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2011 Leaf - Heater Gone anyone have any idea on parts prices ?

February 2, 2018, 5:52 pm
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Tesla Semi Truck

February 2, 2018, 6:02 pm
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by DaveinOlyWA (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 09:02:15 GMT+7)
RegGuheert wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
yeah, so high initial investment?
Yes, but the real kicker is when you figure out the cost to run the electrolyzers for all those trucks! Collect $40M/month from your lessees and PAY $650M/month for electricity to make the fuel for them. Insane!


Well, color me not surprised.

Start up aside; in most cases its easy to guesstimate volume savings but it just doesn't work for Hydrogen. The cheapest is renewable electricity but then the overwhelming question becomes why Hydrogen and its still massive additional processing, transportation and storage costs, instead of EVs?

We talk about the inability to store power but Musk's Australia adventure has proven to work out better than most expected PLUS you got a fleet of trucks storing SEVERAL kwh each. That is a lot of nooks and crannies to put stuff.

I know a handful of people in the trucking business and they fall into two categories.

Ones who want to spend more time at home

Ones who want to make more money while on the road.

What Musk is planning covers both those needs. Long haul truckers who do nothing but drop a trailer at a large central processing yard only to pick up another and turn around don't get saddled with the sometimes VERY long delays that happen when they complete the cargo delivery.

A set of drivers doing the last mile, have that long delay but will still be home every night. Right now, I know a guy working for an independent, doing UPS large freight delivery. Its all local and its mostly sitting in traffic idling. Doing this in an EV would be a HUGE benefit TO ME!

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Help Needed urgently please (range extender problem - have i blown my pre-charge circuit?)

February 2, 2018, 6:32 pm
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by andrewtbennett (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 09:32:08 GMT+7)
Hello all,
bit of a desperate plea for help I'm afraid.

I've been working on a range extender for my leaf - The packs are fully built and balance charging as we speak.
This morning I have spliced two high voltage cables to the HV cable between the battery and inverter (No extra battery anywhere near the car yet) this seemed to work fine and when the car was turned on I got a reading of 360volts between the ends of these two cables as expected.

I was then trying to work out how to get the RLY P (yellow cable on the data connector) to control a gigavac relay that will eventually be used to turn the extra pack on and off in sync with the main pack relays.

It was at this point that I've done something obviously rather stupid as the car now will not start.

I connected the yellow cable (again a spliced connection) to the gigavac relay in the boot, and from the relay on to what I assumed would be ground (i.e. the chassis). clearly this is the wrong thing to do and I can now see that there appears to be a RLY P ground wire.

On turning the car on it seems to have less charge than it did earlier in the day by about 10% and will only respond as though started up without the brake pedal depressed. It does not accept charge.

I've read a few forum pages and the common theme seems to be a blown pre-charge resistor - I think???

Will what I have done above have caused the same? can you think of anything else that I can check to see what damage I've done?

Best Wishes and with much gratitude,
Andrew

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iOS Version of LeafSpy Pro development discussion

February 2, 2018, 6:46 pm
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by Wineaux (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 09:46:48 GMT+7)
I just downloaded the beta version and attempted to run Leaf Spy Pro on my Saber WiFi OBDII adapter.

1) It didn’t instantly crash when run!

2) It got to #15 during startup.

3) It stopped at 15, and then went into a never ending loop of testing 10-14.

I restarted the app, the phone, and my Leaf but it always exihibited the above behavior.

Is this something that’s fixable, or do I need to return the OBDII adapter to Amazon?

I just got a notification from Apple about a new version of IOS. Should I hold off on this update, or go ahead and download it?

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Good Will Program over--Lost 4th bar 10 days after warranty expired, Nissan: 'too bad'

February 2, 2018, 7:50 pm
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by wwhitney (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 10:50:39 GMT+7)
edatoakrun wrote:I wonder why Nissan suspended its out of warranty support program, when Nissan LEAF owners are so conscientious about caring for their battery packs?

The behavior being discussed is a rational response to an all or nothing warranty. A prorated warranty would have avoided any economic incentives for such games.

Cheers, Wayne

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Where are the 2018's?

February 2, 2018, 8:03 pm
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by tuningin (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 11:03:45 GMT+7)
Admittedly I haven’t owned a Nissan in over 20 years and it’s surprising how amateur the operation is.

They delayed production and hence launch to January when the best time was Fall. They ran out of on inventory of the prior model in a lot of regions.

They had a reservation system which ended up being not reservation since there were no assurances that the holder would actually get a car.

Send cars into low demand areas and places where EV sales are very seasonal (snow belt).

Offer an even lower lease that lasts one week and expires prior wide to availability.

These are the thing that you do if you DONT really want to sell something. If you want to sabotage you own product sales. If I there were one person making these decisions, I’d asked them if they really want to sell these or are they trying to intentionally tank a product.

BTW, you might want to double check the new lease vs old. The new one you mentioned has a lower MSRP vs the prior one which had a higher one and tech package.

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Official Tesla Model 3 thread

February 2, 2018, 8:30 pm
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by Zythryn (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 11:30:36 GMT+7)
SageBrush wrote:
Zythryn wrote:Just this morning I have a VIN assignment for my Model 3. If I am lucky I will get it by my birthday on the 22nd :D

Happy birthday !
I look forward to hearing your impressions

Thank you! I look forward to having first hand impressions :lol:

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Guess the Monroney contest: Tesla 3 and LEAF 2 efficiency ratings

February 2, 2018, 8:32 pm
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by RegGuheert (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 11:32:43 GMT+7)
This review gave the 40-kWh MY2018 LEAF a "real-world range" of only 108 miles while giving the 41-kWh Renault Zoe a "real-world range" of 131 miles.

Of course the Zoe is smaller, but that's a big difference.

108 miles. That's not great, especially if you factor in the rapid degradation that may occur with this battery.

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SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering, Y8 - HTB in SA - 20 Jan 2018

February 2, 2018, 8:39 pm
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by tbleakne (Posted Sat, 03 Feb 2018 11:39:03 GMT+7)
Yes, I looked into this earthquake program, going through the online qualification process. I have a compatible zip code, but this program only applies to houses with crawl space under the floor, and my house has a slab floor.

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