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Public discussion of Tony Williams ban from Mynissanleaf

February 24, 2017, 12:23 am
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by VitaminJ (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:23:01 GMT+7)
I was not responding to you, dear. SageBrush said I was the one who is unrestrained so I wanted to clear that up. Thanks for helping.

e: I thought you blocked me, meaning you didn't like what I had to say and wanted to ignore me, so you enabled a feature of the forum to block my posts. Now you are clicking on a special link on every single one of my posts specifically to respond. Stick to your convictions.

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NissanConnect EV / Telematics Hardware Update, for the post-2G world

February 24, 2017, 12:23 am
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by essaunders (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:23:07 GMT+7)
I had my TCU updated on my 2012 LEAF on 2/10. it seemed to work until 2/13 -then stopped.
I will also note they did the P3227 update (or whatever the chargebar 'battery warranty' update is...) at the same time.

I'm also seeing the car light up the EV warning light each morning after overnight charge.

I alos have the following codes:
P312A 00C0 EV/HEV Comm Error EVC-208
P3131 00C0 EV/HEV System Shutoff Timeout EVC-220
P31C2 00C0 EV/HEV TCU EVC-273
U1000 000b TCU CAN Comm Circuit


The car does update local charging stations and will sign in etc. I just get no email notifications and have no webpage/app functionality (charge status, charge initiate, Climate control start/stop etc)

I spent 2.5 hrs at the dealer today. All I got was a cup of coffee and car wash.

I'm pretty sure my 12V battery is OK. It's less than 2yr old. -- LeafSpy pro reported it at 12.76 v at the time my car finished charging (and the BT link shut down -- but I haven't load tested it...

I will try to read the 60 pages of this thread to catch up, but I thought I'd put my info out there incase it helps provide any info to anyone else.


Erik

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Plain Leaf vs Modded Leaf vs No Leaf

February 24, 2017, 12:27 am
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by gshepherd (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:27:30 GMT+7)
I'm down to one vehicle (well, the other one has wings): my 2016 LEAF SV. Great car, and so nice to have simplified the fleet down from the previous two cars and a motorcycle (each about a decade old, so the LEAF is a treat). Insurance, registration, storage, maintenance, repairs, depreciation, and just mental energy keeping track of it all... more than pays for occasional rental cars.

Rental cars allow me to check out what's new, like Apple Car Play integration. Unlike owning an extra car, there's no commitment. Turn it in and get back to enjoying my LEAF. One recent rental from Phoenix to Seattle in a full size sedan cost me all of $7/day one way, unlimited miles. That's less than just the mileage depreciation on a car I would own.

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Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

February 24, 2017, 12:30 am
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by edatoakrun (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:30:36 GMT+7)
wwhitney wrote:...That would drop the breakeven distance in terms of charging time to 533 miles. That's still over 8 hours of driving at 65 mph. With charging time, that's longer than most anyone would want to drive either car in one day.

So the conclusion still holds that the Ioniq EV's greater efficiency can't make up for its smaller battery, in terms of time spent charging on a long trip.

Cheers, Wayne

No, using your assumptions of the Ioniq's efficiency advantage (which, BTW are are almost certainly too high for a speed as low as ~65 mph, but probably close to correct for a trip at ~80 mph) the Ioniq would complete any trip over 533 miles in less time than the Bolt.

TonyWilliams wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:Tony,

You still don't seem to understand the simple fact that a BEV that gets superior efficiency in m/kWh from the charge site will spend less time charging for each mile driven.

I'll try one more time to explain the facts to you.

...If your answer is just better consumption rate with equal charge rate, then sure, the other cars win by a small margin. But, I'd have to see those other cars actually add 125 miles of range AT AN AVERAGE RATE OF 42KW.

That's what you have to beat:

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Actually Tony, if you want to add the Ioniq to that chart, you would want to specify ~ 75 to ~100 miles between recharges, which reportedly would allow close to a ~42 kW charge rate over the entire trip.

You will then see the total travel time line for the Bolt cross (exceed) the Ioniq's on your chart, exactly where depending on your assumptions of actual efficiency at speed for both BEVs.

You two are welcome to continue arguing over which of these two BEVs can make any trip of eight to fifteen hours a few minutes faster than the other under any realistic assumptions, or even the distinctly unreal assumptions Tony prefers to consider, as graphically displayed above.

You'd have to be an idiot, IMO, to consider that small a travel time advantage by either BEV a significant reason to choose to buy either of them, when any beater ICEV would shorten total travel time on the same route by hours.

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Used Nissan Leaf >2012

February 24, 2017, 12:33 am
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by bongo2 (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:33:12 GMT+7)
You sound like a perfect candidate for a Leaf. Getting leafspy is a good idea for peace of mind, but if you really only need 20-22 miles of range, then you have a lot of room to spare in even a beat-down battery. You can get extremely good deals on 2013 leafs right now. Near me (in MN) there are some 2013 S models for sale that are $7000-8000. Go for it!

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Leaf suspension mods from Juke?

February 24, 2017, 12:41 am
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by VitaminJ (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:41:26 GMT+7)
Juke Nismo springs and struts on ebay for $399 or best offer. Someone should get these and report back if they lower the car or change the handling. I would but I need to try my set of Versa springs first.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-NISSAN-JUK ... Nh&vxp=mtr

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Drivers door handles won't open door

February 24, 2017, 12:50 am
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by Tpsfoto (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:50:49 GMT+7)
Ok....really disappointed at Nissan Service....
They told me they would have to destroy my interior door panel to get door open....I found a door panel on EBay and bought it....a friend who is a locksmith asked me to try his luck in opening the door....well in 15 min he had it open....Nissan did dent even try or suggest that.
Looks like it is the actuator and I will have a local repair shop do this. Now the door panel I bought is going back....at my expense.

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LED tail lamps as combined brake/turn signals

February 24, 2017, 12:52 am
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by chirpyboy (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:52:39 GMT+7)
Here's where i put the resistors, right by the headlamps hooked to the front turn signal leads:

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These are 6ohm. The only problem is if the LED tails get disconnected or burn out there will be no fast-flash warning. Maybe there is a smaller resistance sweet spot that allows them to flash normally but still give you a fast-flash if the rear lamps fail for whatever reason.

And yeah I did change the rear turn bulbs to clear filament bulbs (7440)

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Rusting bolt on front suspension strut - potential safety issue

February 24, 2017, 12:56 am
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Leaf Quick Release Hitch for bike racks or cargo

February 24, 2017, 1:23 am
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by Nimo (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:23:34 GMT+7)
how much with shipping to Hawaii, hitch with2" receiver tube?

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Plain Leaf vs Modded Leaf vs No Leaf

February 24, 2017, 1:57 am
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by IssacZachary (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:57:20 GMT+7)
gshepherd wrote:I'm down to one vehicle (well, the other one has wings): my 2016 LEAF SV. Great car, and so nice to have simplified the fleet down from the previous two cars and a motorcycle (each about a decade old, so the LEAF is a treat). Insurance, registration, storage, maintenance, repairs, depreciation, and just mental energy keeping track of it all... more than pays for occasional rental cars.

Rental cars allow me to check out what's new, like Apple Car Play integration. Unlike owning an extra car, there's no commitment. Turn it in and get back to enjoying my LEAF. One recent rental from Phoenix to Seattle in a full size sedan cost me all of $7/day one way, unlimited miles. That's less than just the mileage depreciation on a car I would own.

Thanks!

So far my life has been built around owning two or three used cars and trying to keep them running. It's a love hate relationship. But when I start spending more time with my car than with my wife she tends to get a bit jealous.

This is one of the big reasons I got a Leaf. Not having to worry about when I need to change the oil or the filters or if the transmission needs flushed is a big weight off of the ol' shoulders. Sure, I have rebuilt engines, and have fancy tools to work on cars but I don't want to spend the rest of my life around my car. A new car is about the same. If I go blow $40,000 on a new Bolt then, well, time is money, and money is time. Then I'd have to work more to make more money and spend less time with my family. An $8,000 2013 Leaf seemed like the deal of the century to me. And on paper it's cheaper to rent occasionally than to own two vehicles.

Sounds like I'm coming onto something here. I could get a small generator for those days I want an adventure with the family, and travel from charging station to charging station with the generator as a backup. And on days I need to get somewhere fast I can rent a car. That seems to be the most practical, economical and stress-free choice.

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Extending range of 24kWh Leaf with LeafBox

February 24, 2017, 2:11 am
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by bigalfromwigan (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 17:11:24 GMT+7)
Thomas,

I just found your post about the Nissan Leaf range extender. We have a 2011 Leaf with only nine lights on the battery, so I think a range extender would help us a lot. Do you have any of the beta tester modules left? I would like to help you out by testing one in our situation, where the battery is not in the best of health to start with. Do you think there would be any improvement?

All the best for you and your project.

Alan

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80% Charging on 2014-17 LEAF

February 24, 2017, 2:32 am
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by jjeff (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 17:32:10 GMT+7)
^^ Agree, I figure I get 30%/hr gain with my 6.6kwh charger, from relatively low SOCs to mid 90s SOC, I also get 20%/hr gain with my 19a EVSE.
This is with a 12 bar 24ah battery.

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Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

February 24, 2017, 2:34 am
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AFV Truck and (non-BEV) Bus thread

February 24, 2017, 2:47 am
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by GRA (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 17:47:17 GMT+7)
Via GCC:
Toyota delivers fuel cell bus to Tokyo Metropolitan Government; more than 100 planned by 2020 Olympics
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/02 ... oyota.html

. . . The bus also uses a high-capacity external power supply system. With a power supply capable of a 9 kW maximum output, and a large capacity of electricity supply at 235 kWh, the FC bus can be used as a power source in the event of disasters, such as at evacuation sites such as in school gymnasiums or, its electricity supply can also be harnessed for home electric appliance use. . . .

There's a spec sheet.

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Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

February 24, 2017, 2:54 am
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by GRA (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 17:54:58 GMT+7)
Via GCR:
Why liquid hydrogen may make sense for airplanes, replacing jet fuel
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/110 ... g-jet-fuel

I have my doubts. While boil-off won't be a problem in flight, as usage rate should exceed boil-off rate, long ground holds are another matter, and then there's the general hassle of dealing with LH2.

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OpenEVSE - Open Source Charging Station

February 24, 2017, 3:43 am
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by Zencar1002 (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 18:43:27 GMT+7)
:D

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Updating charge station info.

February 24, 2017, 5:22 am
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by webeleafowners (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 20:22:57 GMT+7)
Hi all. So, we generally use plug share because it is easy to use and seems up to date. Today I figured I would play with the NAV a bit and check out the facilities for indicating local charge stations etc. It seems to not see most of the sites that are on plug share. Is there something I should be doing to get the latest greatest other than the obvious update button? Do people use this feature much or do they mostly use plug share. Honesty we are so use to using plug share because our smart ED doesn't have Nav. I doubt we will use it much. I suppose I can just get the address from plug share and plug it into the NAV destination.

Thanks in advance folks.

John and Angela

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Extending range of 24kWh Leaf with LeafBox

February 24, 2017, 6:02 am
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by VitaminJ (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 21:02:42 GMT+7)
IssacZachary wrote:I see what you're saying. I've noticed that at 0mph the motor seems to be drawing practically no power. But as the car speeds up to about 5mph the motor uses a small but noticeable amount of power, even if you're using your brakes going down hill. Canceling that out might help a little bit in the 1 to 5mph area.

I suspect the power graph thingy isn't 100% accurate, especially at low speeds. As you say, it doesn't report any power being used but clearly at low speeds the car is fighting the brake pedal like a classic automatic transmission. I think it may improve efficiency, especially in stop and go traffic, but mostly I think it's annoying.
Still I wonder how much the 0mph anti-rollback and the 1 to 5mph crawl are related and separable.

Well the electric motor is not at all like a traditional automatic. In a normal auto the idle speed of the engine and the unlocked torque converter cause the car to crawl forward at slow speed based on how the mechanism works (and the car can even roll backwards on a steep enough hill). Nissan just emulated that behavior with the electric motor. There is no reason why behavior >0 RPM has to effect behavior <0 RPM. The motor and all the wheel speed sensors know when the car is doing 0.1mph and -0.1mph, and can adjust the behavior instantly.
I was just saying you wouldn't want to be in essentially neutral and not use either pedal on a hill.

I was literally doing just that last night while sitting in horrible <4mph stop and go traffic for at least 20 miles as all the Californians slid off the side of the highway in 1 inch of snow. I just sat there riding the brake pedal wishing there was no crawl. Then on the uphill sections I crawled up and up and up a few feet at a time without touching the brake pedal, only feathering the throttle. I would like to do that on flat ground too.
PS. To hold itself at a stop it's impossible to be using regenerative braking. Even at slow speeds regenerative braking is practically impossible and nonexistent. The Leaf has to apply power to slow the vehicle at those speeds.

Regen is one thing, but motor braking is completely different. Theoretically, the Leaf can supply the equivalent of 80kw of front wheel "braking" force to cancel out any hill. The limit there is traction of the front wheels (I am not sure if the car will automatically apply the friction brakes to all 4 corners, I suspect not).

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Lit up dash, no climate control, no OBD, as well as shift issues

February 24, 2017, 6:11 am
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by cliff (Posted Fri, 24 Feb 2017 21:11:56 GMT+7)
Ok, looked it up, both A/C auto amp(CC), and OBD are powered through
10 amp fuse 13. Of the 4 fuse boxes in the Leaf it is the one on the side of
the car that is accessed by opening the drivers door, and removing the cover.
It is the highest fuse in the middle column.
this fuse is feed by fusible link C (100 Amp), which is feed by fusible link A
(250 Amp) which is connected directly to the battery positive. The fusible
links are attached to the side of the battery.
Fuse 13 also feeds 3 other things, including the immediate charge switch.
Seems to me this is not enough to create all your problems, so maybe the fusible link C.
But certainly odd to not have power to the OBD (pin 16) which is not switched, so
would suggest following this power train.

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