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EM57 or EM61 Traction Motor


ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

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by cwerdna (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 00:30:01 GMT+7)
Supersleeper wrote:When a Nissan employee parks a car there, there’s really no excuse.

In most parts of the US, due to state franchise laws, automakers cannot own dealerships. Most are independently owned and operated. Google for tesla state franchise laws, if you want more gory details.

So, that employee is likely not a Nissan employee, but rather a dealer employee.


Easy Climate Control Fan-Only Solution - 5 cents, 5 mins

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by mux (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 02:16:02 GMT+7)
After driving with this mod for almost two weeks, it indeed seems to work just fine. The car seems to think it is much warmer than it really is, by about 10 degrees, which means I still get some heated defrost when it's below freezing but the heating quickly stops. The AC button still works to make everything function like normal.

So it's a success!


Help Needed urgently please (range extender problem - have i blown my pre-charge circuit?)

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by mux (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 02:35:00 GMT+7)
First of all, I don't have an answer for you but I'm doing the same thing you're doing, so this is very informative. Your mistake is a learning opportunity for the rest.

What you almost certainly did is temporarily overloading the relay driver. Considering relays are fairly badly behaved in general, they will have engineered this with a PTC fuse or some kind of self-resetting mechanism for overload. The relays are normally open, so when you overloaded the driver, the relay coil voltage sagged and possibly the main pack relay has opened. The RLY P and RLY N signals opening unexpectedly is a critical fault, so the car will NOT restart after that happening. The car thinks the relays have failed short.

This explanation does not account for the charge level of the traction battery seeming to have dropped dramatically. 10% of your SoC is a LOT of energy, about 2kWh. You'll have noticed something vaporizing from that amount of energy being expended. I think either this is a red herring or my explanation is fundamentally flawed.

I think you should be able to see a RLY P failure in your DTCs when connecting to your car with LeafSpy. I don't know if this can be cleared, but other people have messed up much worse than this and got their packs working, so I wouldn't worry too much. Try clearing it and seeing if it works. If you cannot clear it, I believe the maker of LeafSpy has helped people like Leaf XPack clear them anyway with a modified clearing routine. That programmer is awesome.

If the problem persists or reappears immediately after clearing, you have most likely damaged the RLY P driver circuit, and you will have to remove the... I think VCM from your car, open it up (do NOT damage the weathersealing!) and replace most likely just a fuse, maybe some MOSFETs. I am not familiar with these parts, maybe there is an easier to service fuse box, so thoroughly study the service manual before doing anything. Don't take my word. I am currently just as experienced as you are.


I rasn my 2013 Leaf to "---" or ZERO!! But In got home anyway! A mile or so.

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by RegGuheert (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 07:11:59 GMT+7)
cwerdna wrote:Bottom line: If you want visibility into what's going on and not fly blind when you get do ---% remaining, use Leaf Spy!
And why is that? Answer: Because Nissan, in their infinite wisdom, decided to take away telemetry information regarding the battery just when you need it the most.

I can only guess that lawyers were behind that awful decision.


Leaf for driving school

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by LeftieBiker (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 07:30:53 GMT+7)
The "not good idea" part is if your customers require really cool A/C and warm heat during lessons. That would kill the battery, and cut your range in half... Just a thought.


Not true. No Leaf uses that much power for A/C, and the heatpump equipped models only use that much when temps are below 25F or so. The 2011 and 2012 Leafs do have power-sucking heaters, though. The S models lack the heatpump, but have effective resistance heaters (unless it's broken). I'd avoid the S, though, because like the early Leafs the heat still uses lots of power even for defrosting.


CarPortal - Nissan LEAF Inventory

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by CarPortal (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 07:36:07 GMT+7)
Coming soon our charging stations for our own use and complementary EV driver use:

https://www.plugshare.com/location/142207

We chose our current location carefully. It's right on one of the most traveled interstate highways in CA and it has 480v 3 phase power so we can accomodate fast charging in the future (which will not be complementary!).


So, owners what range are you getting ?

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by arnis (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:04:31 GMT+7)
2014 Leaf, 107 500km with 2-3% capacity drop. Range from 100% down to turtle:
Exactly 100km with nippy 60%highway + 40%city and warm cabin, outside down to -5*C.
If I try to go slower, I can get 110km. In summer and spirited driving: up to 120km.

I've had these range numbers for 4 summers and 4 winters. Extremely boring degradation.



What kind of range can I expect from this LEAF?

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by DuncanCunningham (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:15:01 GMT+7)
i think it would be fair to say that the range is best figured on the worst case. Looks like the numbers for the worst are about right. My 2012 will do up to 40 miles during the very coldest and snowy weather with as little heat as I can dare just to keep the front window clear enough to see. Utah Desert winters are not the worst, compared to the NorthEast, but we have some winters were it never gets above freezing, day or night, for weeks on end but snow or slushy snow drag is the big killer of range. this winter 2017/2018 has been warm and rather lacking in snow (so far).

I am no longer in a position to buy another car anytime soon. (health costs with two type 1 diabetics in the family is quite staggering)

if i ever manage to be in the position again... I think I would want a car that can get 100 miles on the worst day with 5 years of battery wear. I'm very lucky right now. My job is only 13 miles away and I do not take many trips other than work and trips in my town.


Where are the 2018's?

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by edatoakrun (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:44:22 GMT+7)
Looks like about a dozen have now been delivered to SO CA dealers.

Anyone figured out an easy way to track sales numbers from these inventory numbers?


2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency

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by Nubo (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:37:28 GMT+7)
LeftieBiker wrote:Or, to put it another way, if they use a chemistry with the same thermal properties as the 30kwh pack, this one will be worse. Otherwise we'll have to wait and see.


That’s putting it the same way. :)


Cryptocoin?

Leaf for driving school

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by estomax (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:00:26 GMT+7)
if you can charge it to top it off between sessions, you will be golden, go for a late 2013 through 2015 model as LeftiBiker mentioned, my experience confirms that those batteries last longer. if the plugs you are talking about are at the office then they are probably 6.6kw rated sockets, so half an hour of charging will give you about 12-15 miles of range as a good rule of thumb. DC chargers (fast chargers) have huge plugs and make noise while they charge (they have some big fans inside)

if you can't charge it, then driving around all day will make it tricky to hit 70 miles in every use case, even if you are mostly at lower speeds. I very easily have 60 miles of highway range on my car at 93% health, the longest trip i made was 85 miles and i wasn't turtling yet.

Marko


Tesla's influence on the auto industry and elsewhere

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by GetOffYourGas (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:15:52 GMT+7)
This topic can be taken too far. Sometimes different companies move in the same direction despite each other.

Here is the Mazda 6:
Image

Are you telling me the concept you linked to doesn't have Mazda's design language?


Tesla responsible for slide in U.S. home solar sales

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by GetOffYourGas (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:19:09 GMT+7)
We'll see if Tesla can demand their usual premium price from the typical Home Depot shopper. This doesn't feel like a great fit to me.



60 miles daily roundtrip all year long

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by Costy (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:28:39 GMT+7)
Thank you again guys for the support. I am looking at some other options because I know it's not good for the batteries to
deeply discharge every time. It seems that I need a car with a higher range so the batteries will work better.
I saw these days a Fiat 500e and I was surprised that there is such an EV car. I google it and I found that the owners are quite happy and the average trips are about 87 miles. It might be a better option because of a little longer range. The price is very low for a second hand one.
I don't want to spend a lot of money on a new 40kWh Leaf even if I like it very much.


Nissan to release 4 BEVs, Inifinity 2 in next 5 years

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by TomT (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:29:02 GMT+7)
+10! Nissan is severely lacking in this credibility department!

GetOffYourGas wrote:I'll believe it when I see it..



Where are the 2018's?

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by DaveinOlyWA (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:46:24 GMT+7)
tuningin wrote:Does ayone know how to decipher the window sticker date? All cars that I have randomly looked at seem to have something similar to 20180122....... I'm wondering if that means built on Jan 22, 2018 If that were the case, there is a chance that these cars could be arriving in the west coast, as that has been two weeks. Also, the incorrect car ordered for me is now slated to arrive on 2/7, so the timeline does line up as well.

No cars seem to have a 2017 or a number lower than 0122. Even though they announced that production started the first week of Dec, did they in fact not start production until Jan 22?


Anything is possible although I don't consider it that likely. Despite consignments hitting the West Coast this morning, the supply is still just a trickle and likely not one delivered a customer.

My dealer who I trust immensely says nothing on the ground in WA before the 12th and I believe him over anyone or any thing else but the trend looks like WA will be listed as having VINs in the next 1-3 days.


300,000th Leaf Delivered

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by finman100 (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:55:26 GMT+7)
wow, that's a lot of degraded batteries.


Tesla's influence on the auto industry and elsewhere

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by GetOffYourGas (Posted Mon, 05 Feb 2018 12:12:09 GMT+7)
Besides the lack of door handles, it looks like a streamlined Mazda 6 to me. I guess I just don't see it.


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