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Newbie from Canada
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SOC% vs GID%
by dwitt (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:14:33 GMT+7)
I'm not 100% sure but I believe that in Settings under Battery I set Config WH Counter to "Reset Manually, Drive+Chrg"
Levenkay wrote:Sounds as if you're the exception to the general rule that "it doesn't make sense to replace one module in a LEAF battery pack, because they all degrade equally anyway". You might be a candidate for an early battery inspection at the dealer.
I'm not 100% sure but I believe that in Settings under Battery I set Config WH Counter to "Reset Manually, Drive+Chrg"
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Autonomous driving LEAF, and the implications for BEVs.
by DNAinaGoodWay (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:34:23 GMT+7)
Self-Driving Cars and the Looming Privacy Apocalypse - The Atlantic
https://apple.news/Aqjo-zEaBQ7SV_8ldxi_3qA
Self-Driving Cars and the Looming Privacy Apocalypse - The Atlantic
https://apple.news/Aqjo-zEaBQ7SV_8ldxi_3qA
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Official Tesla Model 3 thread
by evnow (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:16:57 GMT+7)
West and East coasts are likely least of the problem. West usually gets prioritized in the last month of the quarter, so shouldn't delay for east coasters by more than a month or so.
If 10k employees and 90k S/X owners bookings are made - we are looking at perhaps 100k deliveries before a non-tesla owners in the west can get one. This could take more than a year ...
garsh wrote:And then it sounds like within each of those groups (or perhaps, after those groups), the priority will be west coast first, then flyover country, then east coast, before going international.Rebel44 wrote:Following groups will have a priority:
Tesla employees
Roadster, Model s and Model X owners
Sucks to be in the east.
West and East coasts are likely least of the problem. West usually gets prioritized in the last month of the quarter, so shouldn't delay for east coasters by more than a month or so.
If 10k employees and 90k S/X owners bookings are made - we are looking at perhaps 100k deliveries before a non-tesla owners in the west can get one. This could take more than a year ...
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LEAF in Kansas City
by Henry (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:38:35 GMT+7)
Have any of you been notified by Nissan about the Leaf brake software recall?
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/110 ... eather-use
I purchased my 2015 Leaf in November 2014 so I thought my car would be included in the recall since the article mentions 2013-2015. But when I called Fenton Nissan they said it did not apply to my car. How did I get so lucky?
Have any of you been notified by Nissan about the Leaf brake software recall?
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/110 ... eather-use
I purchased my 2015 Leaf in November 2014 so I thought my car would be included in the recall since the article mentions 2013-2015. But when I called Fenton Nissan they said it did not apply to my car. How did I get so lucky?
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$2.2 billion solar thermal plant known as Ivanpah
by RegGuheert (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:40:34 GMT+7)
Here's another image from CA-ISO from Sunday, March 20, similar to the one I posted previously:
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In this case, solar thermal peaked 47 minutes BEFORE solar PV (10:33 AM versus 11:20 AM). But, more importantly, it appears that solar PV shows significant production for a full TWO hours after solar thermal shows no production (from 5 PM until 7 PM). My conclusion is that CA solar thermal may quit early in lower-light conditions.
Here's another image from CA-ISO from Sunday, March 20, similar to the one I posted previously:
In this case, solar thermal peaked 47 minutes BEFORE solar PV (10:33 AM versus 11:20 AM). But, more importantly, it appears that solar PV shows significant production for a full TWO hours after solar thermal shows no production (from 5 PM until 7 PM). My conclusion is that CA solar thermal may quit early in lower-light conditions.
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iOS LeafSpy Pro Support
by LeafMuranoDriver (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:59:04 GMT+7)
I found the setting to activate the "Reset" button but it only resets the Wh/Regen calculator and nothing else.
Is there any way to put a Reset button to reset all of the data (a few different items when you tap it) that is under the big 42?
LeafMuranoDriver wrote:I just saw this screenshot posted. It has a "Reset" button under 12,612 Wh. Is this new? I have the same version but do not have that. I've been wanting it badly though! Does it reset all of the settings for a new drive?
I found the setting to activate the "Reset" button but it only resets the Wh/Regen calculator and nothing else.
Is there any way to put a Reset button to reset all of the data (a few different items when you tap it) that is under the big 42?
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End of Lease Strategies?
by djkjmuoh (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:06:25 GMT+7)
I called NMAC today and indeed my offer went up from $6000 to $7500 and I have until the end of the month to decide. Of course, it could be the same next month or it could go up or down. From what I hear, this is the highest offer that has ever been available so I am even more tempted to do it. I was informed that the $7500 is off the current payoff amount and not the residual value which was new to me so the bottom price may not be as low as I originally thought since I still have 2 or 3 payments of $450+ left (high payments due to high-mileage lease.)
At any rate, I am strongly considering it because I have all 12 capacity bars at almost 54k miles. I have some light scratches/markings on the paint and I'm certain the tires are running low on tread after 54k miles. I'm pretty sure they will ding me on penalty costs so I might as well buy and buff/detail the car and replace the tires and then keep until my Tesla Model 3 arrives assuming I do put the $1k down in a couple days!!!
I was told that I just have to go to a dealership to take advantage of this offer. I have an end-of-lease inspection scheduled for Wednesday so we'll see how bad they claim the car to be and take it to from there. I'll update after!
EVforRobert wrote:viethoc wrote:Hi all,
FYI, today, March 16th, I reached out to NMAC to potentially purchase my 2013 S model. I still have 6 months left on the lease (due in September 2016). They quoted a $7500 off from the purchase price of $12600. My monthly payment is $227 before tax. So if I want to purchase my 2013 S with 20k miles and 11 bars it will cost me approximately $6461 before tax including 6 more payments plus $350 fee. Do you think I should take the bite? Thank you.
Looks like an excellent deal. If it is contingent on NMAC financing will they finance the car at a favorable interest rate?
I called NMAC today and indeed my offer went up from $6000 to $7500 and I have until the end of the month to decide. Of course, it could be the same next month or it could go up or down. From what I hear, this is the highest offer that has ever been available so I am even more tempted to do it. I was informed that the $7500 is off the current payoff amount and not the residual value which was new to me so the bottom price may not be as low as I originally thought since I still have 2 or 3 payments of $450+ left (high payments due to high-mileage lease.)
At any rate, I am strongly considering it because I have all 12 capacity bars at almost 54k miles. I have some light scratches/markings on the paint and I'm certain the tires are running low on tread after 54k miles. I'm pretty sure they will ding me on penalty costs so I might as well buy and buff/detail the car and replace the tires and then keep until my Tesla Model 3 arrives assuming I do put the $1k down in a couple days!!!
I was told that I just have to go to a dealership to take advantage of this offer. I have an end-of-lease inspection scheduled for Wednesday so we'll see how bad they claim the car to be and take it to from there. I'll update after!
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Ontario increases EV incentive up to $14K!
by KSarge (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:38:11 GMT+7)
Yup, that's what our dealer did (Milton Nissan). No need to borrow or finance the money. A nice convenience at the very least. Still waiting for our incremental cheque from the government...
kennethbokor wrote:Also, some dealers are giving you the rebate up front in the form of a discount. Alta Nissan in Woodbridge ON does this, so you don't have to wait for the rebate cheque. They file the paperwork with you.
Yup, that's what our dealer did (Milton Nissan). No need to borrow or finance the money. A nice convenience at the very least. Still waiting for our incremental cheque from the government...
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ETI to launch project to develop Flettner rotor sails for ships; seeking at least 10% improvement in fuel efficiency
by GRA (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:44:49 GMT+7)
Apparently Flettner's design allowed sailing much closer to the wind than a normal sail: 20-30 degress vs. ~45 deg. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotor_ship
Under "Voyages". That article also says that the ship couldn't compete economically against diesels at the time. I suspect little has changed in the interim, although the article does mention some more recent attempts. There's also an excellent article (from 1936) cited in the wiki article, which goes into far more detail on the design and performance of the Buckau and the Barbara: http://www.shippingwondersoftheworld.co ... ships.html
RegGuheert wrote:Very interesting. Since the force is perpendicular to the wind direction, it seems such a device would only provide improvements with a crossswind: a tailwind or a headwind would not be useful.
A comment in that article included a link to a sail which could *also* be added and deployed for trips with a tailwind: SkySails.
Apparently Flettner's design allowed sailing much closer to the wind than a normal sail: 20-30 degress vs. ~45 deg. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotor_ship
Under "Voyages". That article also says that the ship couldn't compete economically against diesels at the time. I suspect little has changed in the interim, although the article does mention some more recent attempts. There's also an excellent article (from 1936) cited in the wiki article, which goes into far more detail on the design and performance of the Buckau and the Barbara: http://www.shippingwondersoftheworld.co ... ships.html
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Burning Smell while driving 2015 Leaf with 15k Miles
by RonDawg (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:47:34 GMT+7)
I would have that car checked at the dealer IMMEDIATELY. There is a member here whose car mysteriously caught fire on him while driving, with the origin believed to be somewhere below the shifter area (as that's where the smoke was coming from). A passerby caught video of it and posted it on YouTube (search for "Nissan Leaf fire").
That owner had no prior warning and barely had time to pull over and stop and get out.
I would have that car checked at the dealer IMMEDIATELY. There is a member here whose car mysteriously caught fire on him while driving, with the origin believed to be somewhere below the shifter area (as that's where the smoke was coming from). A passerby caught video of it and posted it on YouTube (search for "Nissan Leaf fire").
That owner had no prior warning and barely had time to pull over and stop and get out.
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Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread
by GRA (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:06:21 GMT+7)
Via GCC:
Via GCC:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2016/03 ... shiba.htmlToshiba H2One hydrogen-based autonomous energy supply system now providing power to a Kyushu Resort Hotel; hydrogen storage alloy
. . . H2One integrates a photovoltaic power generation system with batteries for storing output power; a hydrogen-producing water electrolysis unit; solid state hydrogen storage—a MmNi5 (Mischmetal-nickel) alloy); and a hydrogen fuel cell unit. (Mischmetal is an alloy of rare earth elements.) . . .
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Does B mode affect acceleration?
by taloyd (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:48:41 GMT+7)
This is perfect. I've said the same thing to a few friends, and received only incredulity and misunderstanding. Until there's a button that changes the motor in the LEAF - there is no setting that will make it slower or faster - just use your right foot and the brain your mother gave you.
-Tal
Nubo wrote:Power is power. It takes X amount of power to accelerate at a given rate to a given speed. There is no setting on the car that will change the value of X.* Eco mode does not make the car more efficient. It attempts to make YOU more efficient via psychological trickery. It requires more pedal travel, under the dubious assumption that you'll not have the mental fortitude to move your foot as needed to obtain the acceleration you desire. Eco mode is useful though, is it makes the pedal response more linear and controllable, as it should be. Likewise, B mode makes the regen more pronounced, giving easier vehicle control, as it should be. So you have to select 2 non-default choices to get the car to make sense.
* yes, eco mode does put limits on HVAC energy consumption, which is another psychological ploy of dubious merit.
This is perfect. I've said the same thing to a few friends, and received only incredulity and misunderstanding. Until there's a button that changes the motor in the LEAF - there is no setting that will make it slower or faster - just use your right foot and the brain your mother gave you.
-Tal
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Won't charge past 91%
by cwerdna (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:48:46 GMT+7)
The crappy web site seems to jump from 83% to 92% to 100%. I don’t believe it has any increments in between (e.g. like the % SoC display on ‘13+ Leafs). I believe it simply does # of fuel bars / 12 to come up the %. Others have stated this before in other threads.
garsh wrote:I would guess that the OP is getting the % value from the website.cwerdna wrote:'11 and '12 Leafs do NOT have ANY % SoC display. The didn't appear until model year 2013. I'm guessing that the OP is getting his values from Leaf Spy or something.
The crappy web site seems to jump from 83% to 92% to 100%. I don’t believe it has any increments in between (e.g. like the % SoC display on ‘13+ Leafs). I believe it simply does # of fuel bars / 12 to come up the %. Others have stated this before in other threads.
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Replacing fuse in DC/DC Junction box and battery junction box?
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60 mile commute - Am I pushing my luck with a used Leaf?
by famelec (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:08:06 GMT+7)
I started this thread, so I thought I'd give an update...
In January I bought a 2013 S through Carvana.com which I thought was a great service. I'm very happy with the car.![:D]( "Very Happy")
I've been commuting in it most days, 30 miles each way plus about 5 miles for lunch, so 65 miles a day. At night I charge to 80% (L2 240 volts ), make the morning commute, plug in a work (110 volts - L1), and leave from work around 75% charged or so. No worries about range, speed, heater, etc. I often catch myself going 70 mph or more since it just doesn't feel like I'm going that fast. A perfect car for my personal situation.
I've also done the commute a few times without charging at work. There's some construction going on at work, so sometimes I can't park near the outlet. On those days I charge to 100% overnight, drive carefully (try not to go over 60 mph), and I make it home fine. I don't enjoy this, though, since I have to pay more attention to speed, heater use, etc. It makes the commute a bit of a chore. Today I made it home showing 16 miles left. Tomorrow I'll take my ICE car since I want to go to the gym in the morning which adds 10 miles to the commute... If I could never charge at work this would be a poor choice of a car.
I got the S, but with the L3 port upgrade (Chademo fast charger) that also comes with the faster 6.6 kW charger and small back-up camera. I wanted the L3 port upgrade since I figured it would help with resale value if I had to sell the car in the Dallas area, the nearest city where people actually drive electric cars. Not sure how important that really is for resale. I also thought that the 6.6 kW charger would be beneficial, but in retrospect I don't think I'd ever limited by the slower 3.3 kW charger. I supposed if I ever had to use a public charger the 6.6 might actually be nice. I don't need the heater a lot here in Texas but I wouldn't mind having the heat pump of the SL and SV.
One comment is that I've learned to pay no attention to the "miles remaining" indicator. It only increases range anxiety since often times you lose a couple of miles of range even though you've driven only one mile. It plays with your head... I pay attention mainly to the battery % indicator. I know that a one way commute will take anywhere between 40% and 60% of battery capacity depending on speed, wind, heater use, etc. If I leave work with 40% remaining I'll make it home (if I'm careful).
I hope this helps anyone looking at getting a Leaf!
I started this thread, so I thought I'd give an update...
In January I bought a 2013 S through Carvana.com which I thought was a great service. I'm very happy with the car.
I've been commuting in it most days, 30 miles each way plus about 5 miles for lunch, so 65 miles a day. At night I charge to 80% (L2 240 volts ), make the morning commute, plug in a work (110 volts - L1), and leave from work around 75% charged or so. No worries about range, speed, heater, etc. I often catch myself going 70 mph or more since it just doesn't feel like I'm going that fast. A perfect car for my personal situation.
I've also done the commute a few times without charging at work. There's some construction going on at work, so sometimes I can't park near the outlet. On those days I charge to 100% overnight, drive carefully (try not to go over 60 mph), and I make it home fine. I don't enjoy this, though, since I have to pay more attention to speed, heater use, etc. It makes the commute a bit of a chore. Today I made it home showing 16 miles left. Tomorrow I'll take my ICE car since I want to go to the gym in the morning which adds 10 miles to the commute... If I could never charge at work this would be a poor choice of a car.
I got the S, but with the L3 port upgrade (Chademo fast charger) that also comes with the faster 6.6 kW charger and small back-up camera. I wanted the L3 port upgrade since I figured it would help with resale value if I had to sell the car in the Dallas area, the nearest city where people actually drive electric cars. Not sure how important that really is for resale. I also thought that the 6.6 kW charger would be beneficial, but in retrospect I don't think I'd ever limited by the slower 3.3 kW charger. I supposed if I ever had to use a public charger the 6.6 might actually be nice. I don't need the heater a lot here in Texas but I wouldn't mind having the heat pump of the SL and SV.
One comment is that I've learned to pay no attention to the "miles remaining" indicator. It only increases range anxiety since often times you lose a couple of miles of range even though you've driven only one mile. It plays with your head... I pay attention mainly to the battery % indicator. I know that a one way commute will take anywhere between 40% and 60% of battery capacity depending on speed, wind, heater use, etc. If I leave work with 40% remaining I'll make it home (if I'm careful).
I hope this helps anyone looking at getting a Leaf!
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Newbie here from Canada: looking at getting my first and only vehicle, will a used leaf work for me?
by Levenkay (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 23:19:44 GMT+7)
As others have said, longevity depends on how much time the battery spends exposed to temperature and high states of charge. I owned an original 2011 LEAF for three years here in Portland, OR, and passed it on to my sister's SO with all 12 bars at somewhere around 20Kmiles. He drove it at least another year without dropping a bar, although I haven't heard from him lately.AshleyGoingGreen wrote:How long will the battery last (years) if I get a leaf with 12 battery capacity?
Do you think in 5 years, if it lasts that long (hoping it will :/) the price of a replacement battery would be reduced from $6,000?
A couple rides should do it.AshleyGoingGreen wrote:I told my stepdad and he thinks the technology is too new and called me stupid lol. He also is trying to get me to buy a 2016 Honda Civic EX-T which is around $30,000 all inclusive. I'll have to try to convince him if I get a Nissan Leaf.
I've made about a dozen trips of about 300km one way over the last five years. Before buying the 2011 LEAF, and just reading about its (then) claimed 100 mile range, I kind of expected to need only one charging stop to make the ~180 mile one-way trip between Portland and Seattle. That was pretty naive, I discovered. For one thing, the 100 mile range claim couldn't be realized at anywhere close to a practical highway speed, and also assumed more level terrain than the route I needed to drive. Also, the fast charge stations (which, as others have said, you need to have in order to make even the distances you're talking about remotely practical) greatly slow down their energy delivery as the battery approaches a "full" condition. If you insist on charging to 100% at a DC Quick Charger (DCQC), it takes about as long to put the last 20% of charge in as it does for the first 80%. And then (for me) there was the issue of wanting to have *some* range in reserve when arriving, in case the station is broken and I had to limp off somewhere else. The very nice "West Coast Electric Highway" has fast-charge stations placed about every 40 or 50 miles (some closer than that), and my practice was to hit all of them. My pattern is to drive for about 45-55 minutes at somewhere around 50-65MPH (80-100KPH), arriving at about a 10 to 25% state of charge, which a DCQC station can bring up to around 80% in 20 to 30 minutes. I would stop five times during a 290km trip between Portland and Seattle, although with a bit more boldness, I could have skipped a couple stops. But I was expecting to have to spend that safety margin on nursing a degrading pack, so I figured I should get used to that pace.AshleyGoingGreen wrote:A little worried about range anxiety. Do any of you guys have it when going on a trip? (180-250km) I think the first thing I would do with the leaf would be to try out a long distance trip (see how long it takes me to get there, how many times I have to stop and how long it will take for me to fill up at each stop)
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Nissano: An Android app for HVAC
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How long 'til 4th bar drops?
by Evoforce (Posted Mon, 21 Mar 2016 23:50:40 GMT+7)
I believe you are spot on! Especially if they keep shipping them in from Japan. How would we know that they are not just refurbishing them away from view?
Stanton wrote:suwaneedad wrote:4th bar lost yesterday, 3/18/16.
2012 SV
53,474 miles
51.75 months old
Atlanta
I think I'll go ahead and use up the remaining miles and calendar before the warranty lapses, before getting the new battery pack under warranty. Anyone have a reason to think this approach is a bad idea? Thanks.
Bold prediction: the line for (replacement) battery packs will be "around the block" by this summer. Just sayin...
I believe you are spot on! Especially if they keep shipping them in from Japan. How would we know that they are not just refurbishing them away from view?
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Discuss data from the LEAF Battery app, and Comparisons
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