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Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread
by cwerdna (Posted Tue, 06 Feb 2018 23:51:43 GMT+7)
Why a Fiat 500e driver got a Honda Clarity Fuel Cell as his next green car: low cost:
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... r-low-cost
Why a Fiat 500e driver got a Honda Clarity Fuel Cell as his next green car: low cost:
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... r-low-cost
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Option to use gas to heat our car in winter.
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Help Needed urgently please (range extender problem - have i blown my pre-charge circuit?)
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Solar Impulse - Flying Around the World Powered Only by PV
by RegGuheert (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 00:34:44 GMT+7)
As you know, we agree on that point:GRA wrote:All of the above is correct, and makes my essential point. An a/c that can only fly downwind owing to limited speed and range and with accurate multi-day forecasts of ideal weather owing to limited strength isn't much practical use. At the current stage of development, there is no chance of this being a practical means of transportation, because the a/c is simply too limited by strength, endurance and speed to develop further. All of this could be calculated on the ground.
RegGuheert on July 24, 2016 wrote:While I find that some of the flight-endurance records set were impressive, I don't feel this was a very positive demonstration of the many benefits of Solar power. Simply put, Solar-powered flight may have some interesting applications in reconnaissance or as telecommunications relays, but I doubt that it will ever make much sense for transporting people or cargo around the globe. Of course, time will tell.
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Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...
by cwerdna (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:18:24 GMT+7)
A self-driving truck just drove from Los Angeles to Jacksonville:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/06/embark- ... ville.html
The company involved is Embark, which I'd not heard of, until now.
A self-driving truck just drove from Los Angeles to Jacksonville:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/06/embark- ... ville.html
The company involved is Embark, which I'd not heard of, until now.
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Official Honda Clarity FCEV/BEV/PHEV thread
by RegGuheert (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:19:44 GMT+7)
This driver's gain is everyone else's loss.
It's the drug-pusher approach to sales. If you want someone to purchase something which is expensive and bad for them, you provide it for free or at a greatly-reduced price. In this case, the fuel is free and the vehicle is highly subsidized by both the manufacturer and the government.cwerdna wrote:Why a Fiat 500e driver got a Honda Clarity Fuel Cell as his next green car: low cost:
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... r-low-cost
This driver's gain is everyone else's loss.
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Solutions to 12 Volt Batteries and Chargers Posted Here
by GerryAZ (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 02:41:53 GMT+7)
I am sorry for your inconvenience, but welcome to the forum. The warranty on the 12-volt battery is 3 years or 36,000 miles so the dealer will charge a high price for a replacement battery that is not a high quality unit. I recommend that you just replace the battery with a high-quality aftermarket unit rather than fighting with the dealer. I replaced the original batteries in my 2011 and 2015 with Yellow top Optima 51R batteries at my expense even though the originals both failed at less than 3 years so I could have obtained warranty replacements by scheduling visits to the dealer (the failures both happened on weekends). The Optima has much more capacity to handle residual load of the car's electronics while parked and should last a lot longer than the original.
The car charges the 12-volt battery when the traction battery is actually charging, but there is residual load drawn from the 12-volt battery when the charging cable remains connected after charging is complete. Your old 12-volt battery could not handle that residual load. The 2015 Leaf will turn on the system to charge the 12-volt battery from the traction battery when it senses that it is getting low, but the voltage of a weak 12-volt battery collapses too quickly so the system cannot activate. That is what happened in your case so a new 12-volt battery will solve your problem. I also recommend a lithium ion jumper pack (as Jeff mentioned) to carry in any vehicle. The pack I have has started motorcycles, Leafs, and V8 SUVs.
country5369 wrote:2015 Leaf S 12k mi just acquired less than a month ago from coming off lease in Alabama, January 8 2018 "FAILURE FROM AUX BATTERY"
I do not know how long it had "sat" before they shipped it to Chattanooga but I picked it up from Dealer and they said "charged" and ready to go !!!
7 days later I went and visited a friend on Dayton Mountain when a cold spell blew in and the temperature dipped to single digit 2*, Due to it being the first time to pull the mountain I left home with a full charge. I had traveled 14 miles and used 1/2 the main battery. I had brought my main trickle charger and also a motorcycle battery tender I use on my BMW gel battery due to reading such an issue might arise with the Leaf auxiliary battery.
I went to leave and the car had a dead battery symbol and no response other than dash lights came on Tuesday night January 16th 2018. I plugged the chargers in and the next morning had green symbols on the chargers but still a dead auxiliary battery symbol. It was the all day with the temperature in a single digit. The car has now been on showing full charge status from the chargers for 48 hrs and the ambient temperature of the cab finally rose to 32* on thursday January 18th in full sun about 11 am when the battery symbol went off and the Leaf operated as it should.
Nissan does not prepare you for failure in cold temperatures other than state that it will lose range. They do not express any value of the auxiliary battery with this one being a Lit-ion dieing in the cold....they do not with all there gauges give you any status of this battery other than its dead...and guess what ....the car doesn't work.....I did see the manual state a boost but this widow had no car to boost from and the Mtn has no cell or phone service...I do mean country appalachia.
I took it back to the dealer on the 22nd and they kept it for a day returning it to me saying that all checked fine and if it happened again to HAVE IT TOWED IN..........THOUSANDS IN A ALMOST NEW...LOW MILE CAR....TO HAVE TOWED IN.
when asked about the print out about the test....such as an impedance test of the battery after being in a freezer(to replicate the event) They mention they could not do it because Nissan had to approve all testing equipment.....a refrigerator freezer will shed a lot of light but no they pass it back to you.....How can a consumer get anecdote info with the dealer passing the "BUCK"?
Thanks for this thread, got a lot of good info....hopes this helps document the corporate "SLACKING" leading to us "walking" needlessly !!!!
I am sorry for your inconvenience, but welcome to the forum. The warranty on the 12-volt battery is 3 years or 36,000 miles so the dealer will charge a high price for a replacement battery that is not a high quality unit. I recommend that you just replace the battery with a high-quality aftermarket unit rather than fighting with the dealer. I replaced the original batteries in my 2011 and 2015 with Yellow top Optima 51R batteries at my expense even though the originals both failed at less than 3 years so I could have obtained warranty replacements by scheduling visits to the dealer (the failures both happened on weekends). The Optima has much more capacity to handle residual load of the car's electronics while parked and should last a lot longer than the original.
The car charges the 12-volt battery when the traction battery is actually charging, but there is residual load drawn from the 12-volt battery when the charging cable remains connected after charging is complete. Your old 12-volt battery could not handle that residual load. The 2015 Leaf will turn on the system to charge the 12-volt battery from the traction battery when it senses that it is getting low, but the voltage of a weak 12-volt battery collapses too quickly so the system cannot activate. That is what happened in your case so a new 12-volt battery will solve your problem. I also recommend a lithium ion jumper pack (as Jeff mentioned) to carry in any vehicle. The pack I have has started motorcycles, Leafs, and V8 SUVs.
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LEAF CANbus decoding. (Open discussion)
by carrott (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 02:51:39 GMT+7)
My car has the 3.3kW charger and I have the charge timer turned on. https://carrott.org/pcaps/2016-24kWh-ev-plug-in-charge-timer-causes-sleep.pcap records what happens when you plug in. I believe the EV system and charger activate briefly and then it all goes to sleep.
https://carrott.org/pcaps/2016-24kWh-ev-plugged-in-charge-timer-override-pressed-charge-unplug.pcap records what happens when you press the charger timer override button on the dashboard. After a short charging session I pressed the release button on the charging plug, paused briefly and then unplugged.
Supply voltage is nominally 240V and the EVSE reports 10A available.
This means, I need an EV-CAN capture of some sort of a succesful charging session, or at least the beginning of one.
My car has the 3.3kW charger and I have the charge timer turned on. https://carrott.org/pcaps/2016-24kWh-ev-plug-in-charge-timer-causes-sleep.pcap records what happens when you plug in. I believe the EV system and charger activate briefly and then it all goes to sleep.
https://carrott.org/pcaps/2016-24kWh-ev-plugged-in-charge-timer-override-pressed-charge-unplug.pcap records what happens when you press the charger timer override button on the dashboard. After a short charging session I pressed the release button on the charging plug, paused briefly and then unplugged.
Supply voltage is nominally 240V and the EVSE reports 10A available.
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What if car buyers aren't ready for electric cars, even in California?
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30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?
by jsa061 (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 05:16:07 GMT+7)
Yes, I got a 30kwh battery working in a 2014 Laef. See here - last posts from jsa061
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13333&start=30#p517957
NiallDarwin wrote:Has anybody made any progress with this yet?
I am now running a project to design and build modules with greater capacity than the original Leaf modules. I still have not found out what the LBC/battery computer does if it gets above 100% SOH. If the project is succesful we're looking at 35+kWh from a pack. This will make the SOH 145%. I am lacking in CAN skills so any input from those who can help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Yes, I got a 30kwh battery working in a 2014 Laef. See here - last posts from jsa061
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13333&start=30#p517957
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Leaf App for PC?
by smphyl (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 06:57:58 GMT+7)
Very good points you wrote here..Great stuff...I think you've made some truly interesting points.Keep up the good work. Bypass Surveys
Very good points you wrote here..Great stuff...I think you've made some truly interesting points.Keep up the good work. Bypass Surveys
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Extreme cold - drive battery appears dead - help
by yukonleaf (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 07:37:32 GMT+7)
Hi ElectricEddy:
Yes, will look into LeafSpy -
I have to get back to you on Km/KWh with exact numbers - I don't think it is much worse than in Summer - around 5-6 if I recall correctly. The secret is that I do not use the heat just dress warm plus seat heat and steering wheel heat and I warm the car up prior to departure, but that does not count in the KM/KWh calculation. There is a bit more drag in the bearings with stiffer grease and the winter tires have a bit more resistance. Other than that it's just a lot less battery capacity.
I only use the car to commute to work. 22km one way. I stop using the E-car and switch to a gas-burner below -20C as the battery capacity is just falling off a cliff below that temperature (and range bars do erratic things that scare the heck out of me like rapidly disappearing and then all of a sudden reappearing). Also, I am loosing a lot of battery just parking at work (cannot plug in) to the battery warmers. Typically I am down a bar for heating batteries during the day.
The thought of having backup power (generator) has occured but - I have a Syncro Vanagon TDI swap (bad press there ...) that gets me in the bush (paddling etc.) and a Volvo V70 that gets me to far places (if my daughter is not using it), so I decided against it. But, I drove the Leaf now for about 30,000 km just commuting to town during the past 3 years. So there is $4K savings in fuel, oil etc. and about 15,000 lbs CO2 that did not get emitted.![:)]( "Smile")
Hi ElectricEddy:
Yes, will look into LeafSpy -
I have to get back to you on Km/KWh with exact numbers - I don't think it is much worse than in Summer - around 5-6 if I recall correctly. The secret is that I do not use the heat just dress warm plus seat heat and steering wheel heat and I warm the car up prior to departure, but that does not count in the KM/KWh calculation. There is a bit more drag in the bearings with stiffer grease and the winter tires have a bit more resistance. Other than that it's just a lot less battery capacity.
I only use the car to commute to work. 22km one way. I stop using the E-car and switch to a gas-burner below -20C as the battery capacity is just falling off a cliff below that temperature (and range bars do erratic things that scare the heck out of me like rapidly disappearing and then all of a sudden reappearing). Also, I am loosing a lot of battery just parking at work (cannot plug in) to the battery warmers. Typically I am down a bar for heating batteries during the day.
The thought of having backup power (generator) has occured but - I have a Syncro Vanagon TDI swap (bad press there ...) that gets me in the bush (paddling etc.) and a Volvo V70 that gets me to far places (if my daughter is not using it), so I decided against it. But, I drove the Leaf now for about 30,000 km just commuting to town during the past 3 years. So there is $4K savings in fuel, oil etc. and about 15,000 lbs CO2 that did not get emitted.
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Telsa Roadster in Space
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Where are the 2018's?
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How do you File for the $7500 tax Credit
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Brakes Fail upon Powering On
by RegGuheert (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:15:45 GMT+7)
BTW, I thought part of the fix was to have the software increase the voltage of the charging system under certain cold conditions to try to help resolve this issue.
That would be my guess, too. Have you not had the fix applied, yet?ggtronic wrote:i suspect the actuator to failed because of humidity problem in relays or contact ?
deffinitely look like software/electric problem !
BTW, I thought part of the fix was to have the software increase the voltage of the charging system under certain cold conditions to try to help resolve this issue.
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2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency
by Jedlacks (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:19:05 GMT+7)
No thanks for your summary, troll.
edatoakrun wrote:Jedlacks wrote:This is a Japanese blog that I stumbled across through a YouTuber.
https://ev-owners.jp/blog/blog.cgi?id=6352
...The words get jumbled in translation, but the message is still there. "The battery gets hot quickly, and the charge rate plummets"...
Google translation does not produce that actual quote.
Not enough intelligible data there to really discuss, initial charge state, ambient/battery temperatures, charger ratings etc.
We'll have many long-range trips with charging rate data from USA LEAFs to consider, very soon.
But thank you for making a semi-on-topic comment, after the 25 consecutive off-topic comments before, and already one more afterwards.
No thanks for your summary, troll.
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Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60
by GetOffYourGas (Posted Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:44:59 GMT+7)
I agree that if GM met all of these, that the Bolt would be much more widely desirable. Hopefully one of the several BEVs they are about to introduce will meet the length requirement and the faster QC requirement. The infrastructure is growing despite GM, mostly due to the push by Nissan and BMW. Soon Electrify America (aka VW) will add to that as well.
GRA wrote:If the Bolt was a foot longer behind the rear seats, if QC'd faster and the infrastructure was available where I needed it, I could see owning one.
I agree that if GM met all of these, that the Bolt would be much more widely desirable. Hopefully one of the several BEVs they are about to introduce will meet the length requirement and the faster QC requirement. The infrastructure is growing despite GM, mostly due to the push by Nissan and BMW. Soon Electrify America (aka VW) will add to that as well.
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What if car buyers aren't ready for electric cars, even in California?
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